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Heidegger famously claimed not to present an ethics in his thought, and debates about his politics are salient both because of his actions and his silence. Brian Harding’s Not Even a God Can Save Us Now opens another path in Heidegger studies: What if Machiavelli and Heidegger could be put in dialogue? Harding’s own work focuses on the theme of sacrifice and the creation/maintenance of political community. Ross Mittiga’s paper “What’s in a world?,” which compares Heidegger and DuBois, usefully situates Heidegger’s notion of Welt as foundational for politics and society. This paper will examine two points of comparison between Heidegger and Machiavelli: the question of what constitutes a political founding and their views on aesthetics (including the art of writing). It aims to clarify for both thinkers how exactly ideas rule, e.g. how some can cause a revolution while others prevent things from being said or meant.