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This presentation will address questions of, and experiment with possible forms of engagements between social science, technology and security policy, and engineering by drawing on a semi-structured conversation between a hacker and two social scientists, that is, in a second step, reflected upon by STS scholars with a background in informatics which will allow a two-directional translation of both, languages and perspectives. Our aim here is (at least) two-fold: First, we want to explore novel ways of listening to, and discussing and engaging with people who are experts on sensors outside of academia – yet explicitly not in a sense of an extraction of knowledge and information, that is almost always at risk of patronizing or exploiting the “expert engineer”, but as a form of mutual exchange of perspectives, questions, and issue. Second, we aim to experiment with and develop novel formats of integrating these engagements into an academic edited volume while being sensible to the different work logics as well as the different disciplinary logics of crediting (academic) work and the challenges that bear for traditional processes of academic peer-review.